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Chris,

Hate to be a bother but the problem with the instant refill is happening now while I fight agaist the Space Marines as the Eldar. At first the level started out normal but then five minutes into it they started regenerating like crazy.

Just wanted to give another heads up.

Thanks

Too bad this trainer isn't accessible for normal members yet, seemslike cheathappens.com also changed their security, there used to be a workaround so you could download files "Not available to the public yet" even if you were a guest. I suppose I'll have to wait another week, or just wait a few days till paradox releases trainers for free instead of paying 10 dollars a year getting the trainers 1 week earlier :/

the fixed option 100% doesnt NOT!! work for the enemy, its impossible.. the code that is now altered is the progress bar graphic routine, computers do not use this code because they dont use progress bars onscreen, i just played 3 campagne games against the marines using eldar, i placed a breakpoint on the code that affects the filling of troops and the only time it broke through all 3 battles is when I boosted my troop numbers, not once did it break indicating any other force were using it, its possible that marines have an option legit in the game to create some units faster than others, but i can assure you 1000% this option cannot work for anyone but the player.

edit - ok.. just witnessed the enemy respawn one of their troops and the code still didnt trigger this means the marines are refilling ranks normally.. i think thats pretty conclusive now that its not the trainer working for them at all.

[Edited by reclaim, 10/13/2006 6:39:16 AM]

Digic -- a lot of time this can be a perception thing or it's actually the game's AI taking action against your actions. You build some huge army and troops, the AI kicks in and tries to match. As long as they have the resources to do so, they can still refill their units, just not instantly.

[Edited by PWizard, 10/13/2006 10:38:28 PM]

hi guys..

ok.. PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAINER!!!!

Ive been playing this now for a few hours and with the trainer activated ive noticed a few things, and i think people are confusing the skill of the AI with perhaps options working for the other team..

FACT 1
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When using a trainer people tend NOT to play the game properly, ie.. first goal is to go out and collect the points on the map so that you can gain resources and up your pop cap, as the trainer has options for this you skip this phase, this means that there is double the amount of points the enemy can and WILL take over, he now has more resources than he would in a normal game.. remeber the ai plays the game as he always has.. this explains why the pop cap and resources of the enemy look a little bigger when playing with the trainer.. the options for resource, pop cap and power only work for the player and only ever have..

FACT 2
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People cant wait to get going on with the onslaught so generally build massive armies of very weak soldiers and expect just because they have numbers they have superiority this just doesnt work especially against marines..

I just had a rather long battle with the marines and was guilty of all the above and it did make the game longer.. and at some points it does look like they have lots of units but i kept checking the resources of the enemy and the code that triggers for the refills.. everything is only player sided..because by then he had been all over the map and taken most of the points he was getting lots of resources but of course nowhere near as much as you get with the option on.. it took me a swarm of dreadnaughts to finally finish him off but once his troops were dead he couldnt spawn any more ..

just keep this in mind when playing please..

i have to wait a week or so to get this trainer

Awesome, I'm just going to sit back and have my fill of Dark Crusade.

me to awwwwwww! but im still having fun with tha game..

[Edited by rell2g, 10/13/2006 10:33:40 AM]