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Because the game was released in a buggy mess. To the extent that they had to turn of cross play completely as it broke multiplayer. A week on from launch and while they have fixed a LOT of bugs its still far from a ready product.

Much as I love having trainers and you are always impressively fast at bring out new ones it might be worth putting this game on hold for a month or so.

They haven't stated this but I think they are using PC players to "test" their patches (one completely broke levelling up recently causing you to lose all your levels and had to be hot fixed). Once the PC game is in a stable state and they will patch the console versions to catch up and finally turn cross play back on. I would suggest that would be the best time to get a trainer that should last longer without constant patches.

thank you for letting us know , ill wait it out until the PC is more stable

I fail to see that as a negative. They are obviously very dedicated to squash any bugs that pop up. I would love to see even a fracture of that energy from other companies ...

You fail to see paying money to the game devs so that you can "test" their game and find all the bugs that they never found internally as a negative? Would you see it as a positive if you bought a car and they told you to bring it back into the dealership multiple times per day, every single day after you bought it, indefinitely, so they can tweak this or fix that?

The point that Caliber is trying to make is that this is NOT an "early access" game. It's a $70 AAA game that should not be riddled with so many bugs that it requires this number of daily patches after release.

I don't really want to get into a lengthy argument about this because this will lead nowhere.

Yes, I agree that in an ideal world we would need no patches after release. I have been around long enough to remember gaming before the Internet where you would not ever get any patches.

We do not live in an ideal world. I do software development, and I know how difficult it has become to cater for the diverse configurations of PCs. Not just the difference in hardware, but also in software, especially graphics drivers. You realize how deeply those drivers interfere with the actual games running? It's insane.

So in my eyes the problem we got ourselves into is that everything has become too complex, and the majority of actors try to do their best, but they don't coordinate with each others. The adherence to standards is so low that stuff breaks at every corner just because someone tries to circumvent a problem they face.

Look at software written for Windows. Microsoft, as much as I dislike them, do a pretty good job on backwards compatibility. If you adhere to the thousands of guidelines on how to develop for Windows, your win32 stuff from 15 years ago still runs on W11 without problems. There's lots of software, though, that used undocumented features (for various reasons I'm not even going to judge). These, of course, are not guarenteed to work identically or at all in later releases. Same goes with DirectX and whatever API you can come up with.

Now, as we live in a problematic world I look at games and I see _very_ few of them ever releasing without any further patch required. Even the games held in the highest regard like Baldur's Gate 3 need patches after release.

I have come to terms with that as I understand how difficult the job really is. And that is why I value a good post-release support a lot. In my opinion, the post-release support for thios game has been exceptional, they almost put out a patch every day, and caught a lot of problems that in my opinion were not easy to spot.

While I can understand your frustration if you are affected by one of those problems (I myself have been rather lucky, I had exactly one crash in 50 hours of playtime, and that was when I switched to dual monitors while playing) I think they are doing a very good job compared to a _lot_ of other developers.

That's my two cents, and I understand your opinion is different. Thanks for sharing in a non-aggressive way.

Oh, and by the way, with the emergence of Software Defined Cars, I fully expect those problem to close in on us in the near future. It will be less of a problem than on PCs with their wildly differing hardware, but nevertheless I think it's not gonna be pretty

13 patches in 11 days..

steamdb.info/app/1501750/patchnotes/

Thankfully our trainer and it's forward thinking AOB's have weathered it, but thats not always the case..

Games like Baldurs Gate 3, to me, are even more perplexing, as the game was in early access for like a year or maybe longer.. then final release, and began patching like it was week one of the early access release.

Just know that if games are patching like this every day, and it takes hours to update them, every day, games like this will be put on hold. Thankfully this one our AOBs are working to mitigate this patch schedule, at least for now.

best,
Cal

Yeah They release a patch twice a day so i doubt its gonna stop anytime soon,they might keep this up for this entire month.

It seems its randomly how many times a day they update this game, today is the first to update "3" Times today, Before 8, After 12pm and finally after 7pm, can't tell you if there will be more today hopefully not.