Wizard, please read my message again, I am using Linux, I'm running Arch on my laptop (and desktop for that matter), and I am having issues on Linux. I don't even have Windows installed on this machine.
Yes, it's not a Steam Deck, but it's still Linux, it's Arch (which is what SteamOS is based on), and the announcement post, and your reply to me state that it is meant for Linux/SteamOS, not SteamOS specifically/exclusively, so if that's the case, and it is only meant to be run on SteamOS and not Arch (for whatever reason), the wording could be updated in the original announcement post to clear that up.
Except for Valve's proprietary SteamOS software, anything that works on SteamOS also works on Arch, so, I would assume this tool would work, as I mentioned, my issue is that it's not letting me change the installation destination, and because I'm not on a Steam Deck, my home folder is not called "deck". That's all.
OK, that makes more sense. But please understand that this tool was made exclusively for the Steam Deck and so it may never work properly on a plain Linux install. 0x90 can answer you better.
Wizard, please read my message again, I am using Linux, I'm running Arch on my laptop (and desktop for that matter), and I am having issues on Linux. I don't even have Windows installed on this machine.
Yes, it's not a Steam Deck, but it's still Linux, it's Arch (which is what SteamOS is based on), and the announcement post, and your reply to me state that it is meant for Linux/SteamOS, not SteamOS specifically/exclusively, so if that's the case, and it is only meant to be run on SteamOS and not Arch (for whatever reason), the wording could be updated in the original announcement post to clear that up.
Except for Valve's proprietary SteamOS software, anything that works on SteamOS also works on Arch, so, I would assume this tool would work, as I mentioned, my issue is that it's not letting me change the installation destination, and because I'm not on a Steam Deck, my home folder is not called "deck". That's all.
OK, that makes more sense. But please understand that this tool was made exclusively for the Steam Deck and so it may never work properly on a plain Linux install. 0x90 can answer you better.
I see, that's understandable, although, unless something in the installer is using any of Valve's proprietary software (which is only a handful of things related to the Steam Deck's game mode), it should work 100% the same on regular Arch.
And as far as I can tell, the home folder thing seems to be the only issue with installing it, it just refuses to change the folder, even though I'm picking another folder by clicking the three dots, the installer just won't update that choice.
I get that it's made with the Steam Deck in mind, but I would be extremely surprised if it doesn't work on regular Arch, that would be a first.
I appreciate you clearing up your answer, I was a bit confused!
Wizard, please read my message again, I am using Linux, I'm running Arch on my laptop (and desktop for that matter), and I am having issues on Linux. I don't even have Windows installed on this machine.
Yes, it's not a Steam Deck, but it's still Linux, it's Arch (which is what SteamOS is based on), and the announcement post, and your reply to me state that it is meant for Linux/SteamOS, not SteamOS specifically/exclusively, so if that's the case, and it is only meant to be run on SteamOS and not Arch (for whatever reason), the wording could be updated in the original announcement post to clear that up.
Except for Valve's proprietary SteamOS software, anything that works on SteamOS also works on Arch, so, I would assume this tool would work, as I mentioned, my issue is that it's not letting me change the installation destination, and because I'm not on a Steam Deck, my home folder is not called "deck". That's all.
OK, that makes more sense. But please understand that this tool was made exclusively for the Steam Deck and so it may never work properly on a plain Linux install. 0x90 can answer you better.
I see, that's understandable, although, unless something in the installer is using any of Valve's proprietary software (which is only a handful of things related to the Steam Deck's game mode), it should work 100% the same on regular Arch.
And as far as I can tell, the home folder thing seems to be the only issue with installing it, it just refuses to change the folder, even though I'm picking another folder by clicking the three dots, the installer just won't update that choice.
I get that it's made with the Steam Deck in mind, but I would be extremely surprised if it doesn't work on regular Arch, that would be a first.
I appreciate you clearing up your answer, I was a bit confused!
We tried supporting native linux a while back and no one cared or bothered to download the software so likely will not go there again. It is my recommendation that we stick exclusively to the Steam Deck with this tool and not try and support every flavor of Linux out there which is just going to shoot our costs even higher for probably a total of 5 people that would even try and use it like you are, not to mention it would probably screw something up with the Steam Deck side of things the more that we try and make it universally compatible.
Wizard, please read my message again, I am using Linux, I'm running Arch on my laptop (and desktop for that matter), and I am having issues on Linux. I don't even have Windows installed on this machine.
Yes, it's not a Steam Deck, but it's still Linux, it's Arch (which is what SteamOS is based on), and the announcement post, and your reply to me state that it is meant for Linux/SteamOS, not SteamOS specifically/exclusively, so if that's the case, and it is only meant to be run on SteamOS and not Arch (for whatever reason), the wording could be updated in the original announcement post to clear that up.
Except for Valve's proprietary SteamOS software, anything that works on SteamOS also works on Arch, so, I would assume this tool would work, as I mentioned, my issue is that it's not letting me change the installation destination, and because I'm not on a Steam Deck, my home folder is not called "deck". That's all.
OK, that makes more sense. But please understand that this tool was made exclusively for the Steam Deck and so it may never work properly on a plain Linux install. 0x90 can answer you better.
I see, that's understandable, although, unless something in the installer is using any of Valve's proprietary software (which is only a handful of things related to the Steam Deck's game mode), it should work 100% the same on regular Arch.
And as far as I can tell, the home folder thing seems to be the only issue with installing it, it just refuses to change the folder, even though I'm picking another folder by clicking the three dots, the installer just won't update that choice.
I get that it's made with the Steam Deck in mind, but I would be extremely surprised if it doesn't work on regular Arch, that would be a first.
I appreciate you clearing up your answer, I was a bit confused!
We tried supporting native linux a while back and no one cared or bothered to download the software so likely will not go there again. It is my recommendation that we stick exclusively to the Steam Deck with this tool and not try and support every flavor of Linux out there which is just going to shoot our costs even higher for probably a total of 5 people that would even try and use it like you are, not to mention it would probably screw something up with the Steam Deck side of things the more that we try and make it universally compatible.
I remember hearing about that way after the fact, despite being a CH user for more than 8 years and a Linux user wanting CH on Linux for longer than that, I, along with most other Linux users (judging by basically every Linux gaming subreddit post echoing this), never saw any announcement about Linux support, which is why I personally believe that attempt failed. Simply not enough people even knew about it in the first place and only found out way after the fact.
That being said, this is the beauty of using Arch when it comes to "Steam Deck software", it's all supported and working out of the box. Not only that, you have things like debtap, distrobox, and so on, which makes it possible to run basically every application for any distribution on Arch.
The reason this is not working is a unique one that I've never seen before, which is, that the installer is locked to the default name of the Steam Deck home folder, "deck", and therefore won't proceed. Other than that, it should just install the same as it would on a Steam Deck 😀
EDIT: I just created a fresh Arch VM, called my user "deck", and the tool installed without issues, and everything is working, so, as I was saying, the only thing keeping this from working on Arch (and any other Arch based distro) is the installer being locked in on the user being called "deck".
Changing this in the installer, and making it possible to change where you want it installed (instead of the forced path), will make it possible to install this tool on Arch, Manjaro, EndeavourOS, Garuda, etc., and open up for the possibility of so many more people being able to use it, instead of only Steam Deck users
[Edited by YumKaax, 12/19/2023 9:14:14 PM]
[Edited by YumKaax, 12/19/2023 9:56:33 PM]
Wizard, please read my message again, I am using Linux, I'm running Arch on my laptop (and desktop for that matter), and I am having issues on Linux. I don't even have Windows installed on this machine.
Yes, it's not a Steam Deck, but it's still Linux, it's Arch (which is what SteamOS is based on), and the announcement post, and your reply to me state that it is meant for Linux/SteamOS, not SteamOS specifically/exclusively, so if that's the case, and it is only meant to be run on SteamOS and not Arch (for whatever reason), the wording could be updated in the original announcement post to clear that up.
Except for Valve's proprietary SteamOS software, anything that works on SteamOS also works on Arch, so, I would assume this tool would work, as I mentioned, my issue is that it's not letting me change the installation destination, and because I'm not on a Steam Deck, my home folder is not called "deck". That's all.
OK, that makes more sense. But please understand that this tool was made exclusively for the Steam Deck and so it may never work properly on a plain Linux install. 0x90 can answer you better.
I see, that's understandable, although, unless something in the installer is using any of Valve's proprietary software (which is only a handful of things related to the Steam Deck's game mode), it should work 100% the same on regular Arch.
And as far as I can tell, the home folder thing seems to be the only issue with installing it, it just refuses to change the folder, even though I'm picking another folder by clicking the three dots, the installer just won't update that choice.
I get that it's made with the Steam Deck in mind, but I would be extremely surprised if it doesn't work on regular Arch, that would be a first.
I appreciate you clearing up your answer, I was a bit confused!
We tried supporting native linux a while back and no one cared or bothered to download the software so likely will not go there again. It is my recommendation that we stick exclusively to the Steam Deck with this tool and not try and support every flavor of Linux out there which is just going to shoot our costs even higher for probably a total of 5 people that would even try and use it like you are, not to mention it would probably screw something up with the Steam Deck side of things the more that we try and make it universally compatible.
I remember hearing about that way after the fact, despite being a CH user for more than 8 years and a Linux user wanting CH on Linux for longer than that, I, along with most other Linux users (judging by basically every Linux gaming subreddit post echoing this), never saw any announcement about Linux support, which is why I personally believe that attempt failed. Simply not enough people even knew about it in the first place and only found out way after the fact.
That being said, this is the beauty of using Arch when it comes to "Steam Deck software", it's all supported and working out of the box. Not only that, you have things like debtap, distrobox, and so on, which makes it possible to run basically every application for any distribution on Arch.
The reason this is not working is a unique one that I've never seen before, which is, that the installer is locked to the default name of the Steam Deck home folder, "deck", and therefore won't proceed. Other than that, it should just install the same as it would on a Steam Deck 😀
EDIT: I just created a fresh Arch VM, called my user "deck", and the tool installed without issues, and everything is working, so, as I was saying, the only thing keeping this from working on Arch (and any other Arch based distro) is the installer being locked in on the user being called "deck".
Changing this in the installer, and making it possible to change where you want it installed (instead of the forced path), will make it possible to install this tool on Arch, Manjaro, EndeavourOS, Garuda, etc., and open up for the possibility of so many more people being able to use it, instead of only Steam Deck users
[Edited by YumKaax, 12/19/2023 9:14:14 PM]
[Edited by YumKaax, 12/19/2023 9:56:33 PM]
We sent out an email to the database when we added Linux support. We announced it as best we could. We have no intention of trying again as we already barely have time to get to all the PC titles.
I am glad you got it working like you wanted, but like 0x90 said, we have no plans to support this tool outside of the Steam Deck. If we start allowing custom installs and other things then it is only more difficult to troubleshoot actual Steam Deck users. I hope you understand.
Have you tried just creating a sym/hard link? Its just a link/redirection from one place to another. Here are the paths our tool uses:
/home/deck/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/
/home/deck/.local/share/Steam
Maybe this helps you: Link
Please note that we can only give official support for the Steamdeck. So if we allow you to change the install folder you or others might get the wrong assumption that we're supporting it outside of Steamdeck now. Which is not our plan. There are too many Linux distributions out there, we don't have the time or resources for this. Especially when it comes to deal with issues related to them. However we don't prevent you from trying to get it to work on your own. And if you got a solution feel free to post it here to help others.
[Edited by 0x90, 12/20/2023 1:17:34 AM]
Sadly, Linux is really weird about symlinks, doing that breaks several flatpak and snap packages (like authy, bitwarden, and more), so that's sadly not a solution if you use those (which I do).
It would also require me to create another user on every system called "deck", so like a rogue user (which wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'm always trying to keep my system minimal and tidy).
Perhaps I can use the mount function instead, as that is how I've linked my Documents, Pictures, etc., folders from another partition to my home folder.
That is completely understandable, I wouldn't expect you guys to give support to non-SD users, although there would be absolutely no difference from any Arch-based distribution, but I get it with Ubuntu, etc., as those are quite different.
You guys are doing some awesome work with CH, I've always been a very satisfied user/costumer, and if I do end up making this tool work, I'll buy it when it's out of beta in a heartbeat! 🙂
I'll see if I can figure something out, as this tool is way handier than the other Linux solution (which seems to be working on/off at times and requires quite a few more steps).
If I figure something out, I'll make sure to make a post for other Arch-based, non-SD users (and ofc make it absolutely clear that there is no support for running the tool on anything besides the SD)
I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer, and that you gave suggestions with a "do it on your own with no support" disclaimer! 😀
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