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    PWizard posted on Nov 16, 2021 2:56:07 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Xperiahole

    Thanks for your reply 0x90.

    My main concern is that standalone trainers will be gone once the AIO is released. I remember PWizard said that standalone trainers won't be available once the AIO is out. (please correct me if I am wrong). I still prefer standalone trainers to be available in my games folder (with the ability to create offline keys) instead of installing the AIO app. If you can confirm that standalone trainers will still be available to download even for new future games after the AIO app is released then I definitely won't complain.

    Thanks.

    Note that all the stand-alone trainers available today will still be available after we launch the AIO, we will just not be making any new ones.

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    enio posted on Nov 16, 2021 3:22:17 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by PWizard

    quote:
    originally posted by Xperiahole

    Thanks for your reply 0x90.

    My main concern is that standalone trainers will be gone once the AIO is released. I remember PWizard said that standalone trainers won't be available once the AIO is out. (please correct me if I am wrong). I still prefer standalone trainers to be available in my games folder (with the ability to create offline keys) instead of installing the AIO app. If you can confirm that standalone trainers will still be available to download even for new future games after the AIO app is released then I definitely won't complain.

    Thanks.

    Note that all the stand-alone trainers available today will still be available after we launch the AIO, we will just not be making any new ones.

    Then you should change your comparison page.. 😐
    Saying that with normal lifetime you can download offline keys is/will no longer be correct, at least for new games.

    i.imgur.com/1lmGycN.jpg
    An asterisk should be put with a note at the bottom for anything that's not lifetime plus in the offline key field to inform users that offline keys won't be available to them without "additional payments" for new games.

    I wonder why service upgrades (the AIO in your case) are usually downgrades for the end customer, the offline keys thing isn't my only complaint. I and many others still prefer the standalone option. Your security concerns regarding the AIO and offline keys shouldn't be the legit users' problem looking to get what they paid for.

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    PWizard posted on Nov 16, 2021 3:36:37 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Xperiahole

    quote:
    originally posted by PWizard

    quote:
    originally posted by Xperiahole

    Thanks for your reply 0x90.

    My main concern is that standalone trainers will be gone once the AIO is released. I remember PWizard said that standalone trainers won't be available once the AIO is out. (please correct me if I am wrong). I still prefer standalone trainers to be available in my games folder (with the ability to create offline keys) instead of installing the AIO app. If you can confirm that standalone trainers will still be available to download even for new future games after the AIO app is released then I definitely won't complain.

    Thanks.

    Note that all the stand-alone trainers available today will still be available after we launch the AIO, we will just not be making any new ones.

    Then you should change your comparison page.. 😐
    Saying that with normal lifetime you can download offline keys is/will no longer be correct, at least for new games.

    i.imgur.com/1lmGycN.jpg
    An asterisk should be put with a note at the bottom for anything that's not lifetime plus in the offline key field to inform users that offline keys won't be available to them without "additional payments" for new games.

    I wonder why service upgrades (the AIO in your case) are usually downgrades for the end customer, the offline keys thing isn't my only complaint. I and many others still prefer the standalone option. Your security concerns regarding the AIO and offline keys shouldn't be the legit users' problem looking to get what they paid for.

    The signup/renewal tables will be updated when the AIO launches. Until then the text is still valid. Also there have been no "downgrades" to Lifetime membership or otherwise. Lifetime members still get to download any/all trainers offered by the site which is all that we promised. All of the other stuff are just "features" that we didn't have to implement at all.

    [Edited by moderator PWizard, 11/16/2021 3:37:00 AM]

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    enio posted on Nov 16, 2021 3:51:23 AM - Report post
     
    Huh? the offline key is still a main key feature for subscribers/lifetime members, it's even mentioned in the comparison page.
    By key feature I mean that some people will consider subscribing because they read it in the comparison page.
    Revoking that in the future for lifetime and premium members without additional payments isn't cool IMO (regardless of the circumstances AIO or not).
    But it's what it is and I think nothing I or others say will change anything. Also don't tell me that other services don't provide offline keys, I don't care for them, it's what made cheat happens special, it's unique and that's why we love(d) it.

    Have a good day.
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    PWizard posted on Nov 16, 2021 3:56:37 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Xperiahole

    Huh? the offline key is still a main key feature for subscribers/lifetime members, it's even mentioned in the comparison page.
    By key feature I mean that some people will consider subscribing because they read it in the comparison page.
    Revoking that in the future for lifetime and premium members without additional payments isn't cool IMO (regardless of the circumstances AIO or not).
    But it's what it is and I think nothing I or others say will change anything. Also don't tell me that other services don't provide offline keys, I don't care for them, it's what made cheat happens special, it's unique and that's why we love(d) it.

    Have a good day.

    The current decision is FINAL. We still retain the right to make whatever changes we see fit to any membership level. If you want offline keys and don't want to subscribe to Lifetime PLUS, then simply buy a pack of 20 for $10 during our Kickstarter which ends in 24 hours.

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    machine4578 posted on Nov 16, 2021 4:17:56 AM - Report post
     
    i have to agree with Xperiahole. and @PWizard i agree that your statement "We still retain the right to make whatever changes we see fit to any membership level." is true. but to make such a drastic change to existing PAID customers, even customers like myself that been a LIFETIME member for 10yrs. what else can it be but a downgrade? i can no longer use the trainers offline unless i fork up more $$. that isnt the LIFETIME membership i and other paid for.
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    Kierana posted on Nov 16, 2021 4:24:49 AM - Report post
     
    Hey, could you please link to that 20 keys for $10 pack? Or explain it like im totally new to Kickstarter. Want to snap that up as I agree that it's very fair.

    I had a look on the Kickstarter page but only saw it mentioned in the larger packs ($200+), hence asking the for the link.

    Much appreciated, thanks!
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    PWizard posted on Nov 16, 2021 5:21:19 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Kierana

    Hey, could you please link to that 20 keys for $10 pack? Or explain it like im totally new to Kickstarter. Want to snap that up as I agree that it's very fair.

    I had a look on the Kickstarter page but only saw it mentioned in the larger packs ($200+), hence asking the for the link.

    Much appreciated, thanks!

    You can choose MANAGE PLEDGE and then choose the add-on or it will be offered after the campaign via Backerkit.

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