Not entirely true.
First of all browsers are 32 bit programes and in worse case scenerio if you open like zillion tabs they can consume up to 4gb ram tops.
Second I had 16gb ram in my last build and on my current build, I've been working with page file disabled for 3 years now with not a single issue what so ever.
Third Win uses the page file regardless of how much ram you have and it changes from program to program, btw there are some rare cases of games that wont start with page file disabled like "Burnout Paradise" but that's the only game I came across so far.
Page file these days is obsolete it's only useful for saving bsod's reports and other crash reports and of course if you have extremely low ram.(if it's important to you just save the page file elsewhere and reduce its size to 100mb)
You should be fine even with 8gb ram as most games wont consume more than 4gb but there are some that do so I would avoid that.
In any case under no circumstance allow the page file to sit on your ssd it's the number one killer for ssd's.
[Edited by kingkob, 6/14/2015 7:31:15 AM]
Thanks for the information again. It will be a month before I can get the new drive. I am definitely going to research this.
Not entirely true.
First of all browsers are 32 bit programes and in worse case scenerio if you open like zillion tabs they can consume up to 4gb ram tops.
Second I had 16gb ram in my last build and on my current build, I've been working with page file disabled for 3 years now with not a single issue what so ever.
Third Win uses the page file regardless of how much ram you have and it changes from program to program, btw there are some rare cases of games that wont start with page file disabled like "Burnout Paradise" but that's the only game I came across so far.
Page file these days is obsolete it's only useful for saving bsod's reports and other crash reports and of course if you have extremely low ram.(if it's important to you just save the page file elsewhere and reduce its size to 100mb)
You should be fine even with 8gb ram as most games wont consume more than 4gb but there are some that do so I would avoid that.
In any case under no circumstance allow the page file to sit on your ssd it's the number one killer for ssd's.
[Edited by kingkob, 6/14/2015 7:31:15 AM]
Actually you are wrong.
They may be 32bit, but there can be a multiple amount of processes that each can take up to a max of 4gb.
The Page file is necessary for operation for a fail safe, you have been lucky sure, but don't tell others that bad advice.
The page file only adjusts its size due to what you use over time, it builds a profile of your most used applications and from there adjusts the size accordingly.
Now if you have multiple apps running the page file will change it's size again, but nothing is written, it is pre-allocated until it is used.
Now there is still apps out there that request page file usage. Turning it off doesn't increase your PC performance, that is a myth also. Having it on doesn't decrease your PC performance.
But as said it is needed, and I suggest not believing the multitudes of so called experts from overclocking forums etc.
Also I never said to keep the page file on an SSD either.
But I would like to see your source on why disabling a page file is fine, from a legitimate source.
Also 8GB is fine these days sure, but more titles are 64bit compatible, and many future titles will be also.
Witcher 3 and Batman AK are both 64bit only. So what about people with 8GB RAM, a decent GPU, should they disable their page file while playing Witcher 3 or Batman AK in the near future?
Cause crash central if they do.
Not entirely true.
First of all browsers are 32 bit programes and in worse case scenerio if you open like zillion tabs they can consume up to 4gb ram tops.
Second I had 16gb ram in my last build and on my current build, I've been working with page file disabled for 3 years now with not a single issue what so ever.
Third Win uses the page file regardless of how much ram you have and it changes from program to program, btw there are some rare cases of games that wont start with page file disabled like "Burnout Paradise" but that's the only game I came across so far.
Page file these days is obsolete it's only useful for saving bsod's reports and other crash reports and of course if you have extremely low ram.(if it's important to you just save the page file elsewhere and reduce its size to 100mb)
You should be fine even with 8gb ram as most games wont consume more than 4gb but there are some that do so I would avoid that.
In any case under no circumstance allow the page file to sit on your ssd it's the number one killer for ssd's.
[Edited by kingkob, 6/14/2015 7:31:15 AM]
Actually you are wrong.
They may be 32bit, but there can be a multiple amount of processes that each can take up to a max of 4gb.
The Page file is necessary for operation for a fail safe, you have been lucky sure, but don't tell others that bad advice.
The page file only adjusts its size due to what you use over time, it builds a profile of your most used applications and from there adjusts the size accordingly.
Now if you have multiple apps running the page file will change it's size again, but nothing is written, it is pre-allocated until it is used.
Now there is still apps out there that request page file usage. Turning it off doesn't increase your PC performance, that is a myth also. Having it on doesn't decrease your PC performance.
But as said it is needed, and I suggest not believing the multitudes of so called experts from overclocking forums etc.
Also I never said to keep the page file on an SSD either.
But I would like to see your source on why disabling a page file is fine, from a legitimate source.
Also 8GB is fine these days sure, but more titles are 64bit compatible, and many future titles will be also.
Witcher 3 and Batman AK are both 64bit only. So what about people with 8GB RAM, a decent GPU, should they disable their page file while playing Witcher 3 or Batman AK in the near future?
Cause crash central if they do.
Wrong again.
Even if you open multiple browsers with multiple tabs each you'll find it very hard to get to 4gb, try that and get back to me.
Also I never said disabling page file will increase performance but from my exp it 100% does! certain games load and open faster because windows does use page file at it's own consideration to each and every app and disabling it forces win to use RAM which is much more faster.
Like I said if you have 8gb I would'nt recommend disabling it but if you have 16gb which is almost a standard these days then you're perfectly fine.
You want a legitimate source? I'm your source.
Lets say im not exactly the average pc user, I ran multiple virtual machines while browsing and played each game you can imagine, also I edit huge video files, never ever had a single hiccup or crash, and you can take that to the bank.
Edit: Btw if you want another source Neo7 is your man, I remember we discussed about it over here few years ago and he was the one who recomended me to disable the page file because he had good exp with it and I did. It turned out to be the right choice.
But you can take it or leave it I'm not arguing with you for me it worked brilliantly.
The main thing for my friend is that the file wont sit on his ssd, if he decides to disable it or not is completely negligible.
[Edited by kingkob, 6/15/2015 5:00:12 PM]
My recommendation is to never disable.
It's ok to change your mind: Link
Lol even Dab spoke differently, sometimes I wonder if people post just for the sake of argument.
I recommend to disable it.
[Edited by kingkob, 6/15/2015 6:37:30 PM]